Going name-blind when shortlisting candidates may be a sensible start, but it is likely to be just a small step towards ending hiring bias.

将入围候选人的名字隐藏起来，这或许是一个明智的开端，但它可能只是在终结雇佣偏见道路上迈出的一小步而已。

So when they take out of the 20, they make it three or five, that's called... that process is called shortlisting. They shortlist the candidates.

当他们从20个人中挑出3、5个人，这个过程叫作挑选最终的候选人名单。他们刷选这些候选人。